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GTX 470 & GTX 480 a tra poco!

GTX 470 & GTX 480 A TRA POCO!

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Sono ormai passati molti mesi dall'annuncio delle nuove GTX di Nvidia, circa 8.

In questo periodo tutti gli appassionati sono stati con gli occhi puntati, ma ben poco ï¿½ trapelato,se non il fatto che Nvidia non sta messa proprio bene.

Durante questo lungo periodo poi ne abbiamo viste di tutti i colori, gente che pubblicava risultati finti,ï¿½inventava news e cercava di screditare in tutti i modi il duro lavoro dietro a questa nuova architettura.

Ora perï¿½ siamo vicini alla veritï¿½, questa notte infatti scadrï¿½ l'Nda imposto dalla casa verde e le varie redazioniï¿½potranno pubblicare liberamente le proprie recensioni dalla mezza notte. Fino a quel momento perï¿½ sarï¿½ buio totale e nonostanteï¿½le varie voci nessuno sa la veritï¿½, tranne chi ha avuto veramente in mano quelle schede.

Ora vorrei perï¿½ mettervi un pï¿½ alla prova, e offrirï¿½ a 3 di voi la possibilitï¿½ di aumentare i crediti utilizzabili sul sito per leï¿½scommesse.

Questa specie di gioco consiste solamente nel commentare questa news dicendo secondo voi come andranno le nuove GTX 470 e GTX 480 seï¿½paragonate alle rivali ATI HD 5850 HD 5870 e HD 5970 (dual-gpu)

Dovrete postare inserendo nel commento una percentuale di vantaggio/svantaggio tra le varie schede (tenendo conto che la 5850 parte con un valore pari al 100% calcolerete le altre vga), inoltre dovrete valutare soggettivamente quali sono i pro e i contro di queste nuove schede, parlando se volete anche dell'architettura.

Qui sotto un esempio su come postare vi renderï¿½ le cose molto facili.

ATI 5850 100%

GTX 470 ï¿½130% ï¿½(130-100= 30 cioï¿½ il valore in percentuale di prestazioni in piï¿½)

GTX 480 ï¿½140%

ATI 5870 145%

ATI 5970 200%

considerazione: secondo me il sistema di dissipazione ï¿½ ottimo.... non apprezzo perï¿½ il colore...

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Molto semplice dunque. Allo scoccare delle 23 il concorso finirï¿½ ogni commento editato, o postato dopo tale orario perciï¿½ non sarï¿½ validoï¿½per poter partecipare.

Ai 3 vincitori verranno assegnati rispettivamente 300, 200 e 100 crediti. La classifica verrï¿½ poi decisa in base alla pertinenza di ciï¿½ che avete scritto. Chi dunque si avvicinerï¿½ di piï¿½ a ciï¿½ che ï¿½ la realtï¿½ vincerï¿½. BUONA FORTUNA

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#20 at 31.03.2022 on 17:18hh

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visto che gli unici due ad aver partecipato in modo corretto sono stati geko e jowa farï¿½ assegnare 200 punti a testa ad entrambi bravi ragazzi

#19 at 27.03.2022 on 21:03hh

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oh bhe che ati ï¿½ al lavoro ï¿½ un dato di fatto .... per una 5890 non devono fare niente.. alzano di uno o due step il voltaggio dei core grafici e tirano su le frequenze prenderebbero il 10 % delle prestazioni come niente

#18 at 27.03.2022 on 20:42hh

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Infatti hanno limitato proprio le specifiche a causa dei vari problemi: di resa (come ho detto sempre nei contro) da parte di TSMC, temperature, consumi...quindi molto probabilmente avranno disponibilitï¿½ in volumi e introdurranno altre schede della serie per le restanti fasce di mercato non prima dell'estate. Il che si traduce praticamente un una concorrenza assente. ï¿½ Ed io che volevo pensionare la mia valida HD 4850...

Per quel periodo ATI ha giï¿½ in programma un refresh delle soluzioni attuali e verosimilmente una HD 5890 in modo da rivaleggiare con la controparte in singola GPU.

Pazienza...mi toccherï¿½ attendere

#17 at 27.03.2022 on 19:42hh

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purtroppo il paragone per quanto riguarda l'overclock ï¿½ un po diverso se paragonato alle altre vga. queste nuove gtx hanno un'architettura molto complessa un die enorme, temperature da capogiro e tdp spaventosi, anche 100 mhz per gpu con questo stepping sono da ammirare. probabilmente con uno die shrink nvidia risolverebbe molte cose perï¿½ dovremo attendere l'estate. sul fatto delle aspettative sono d'accordo, con tutto questo ritardo le schede dovevano essere spaventosamente piï¿½ potenti invece siamo ancora ad attendere i 512 sp. questo lo considero piï¿½ un paper launch.

#16 at 27.03.2022 on 17:28hh

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Quello senz'altro, ma direi con qualunque scheda, chi piï¿½ chi meno, si puï¿½ tirare su di diversi Mhz a liquido.

Converrai con me che, come ho scritto nei contro, la troppa attesa unita a delle prestazioni al di sotto delle aspettative generali, al prezzo e al consumo non ne fanno certo un "best buy" come al tempo della serie 8800. Tutt'altro.

#15 at 27.03.2022 on 17:11hh

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si infatti ï¿½ troppo presto per tirare conclusioni non son passate nemmeno 24 ora dai primi test. quel che ï¿½ certo ï¿½ che vga come la 470 hanno un buon margine di oc. se queste vga andassero a liquido ( come la 275 sul mio pc) permetterebbero aumenti di frequenza ben maggiori.

#14 at 27.03.2022 on 16:58hh

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Non so se ha fornito percentuali "secche" piï¿½ precise. Ad ogni modo i risultati delle varie review sono influenzati dal setup della piattaforma e a quali test sono state sottoposte.

Detto questo, sono dell'idea che con la prossima release driver riusciranno a sfruttare un po meglio questi video-fornetti.ï¿½ï¿½

Il lato positivo ï¿½ che chi avrï¿½ la grande idea di acquistare queste periferiche multiuso, potrï¿½ seriamente pensare di cucinarci sopra, specie in configurazioni SLI. ï¿½

#13 at 27.03.2022 on 16:51hh

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ci sei andato molto vicino, jowa perï¿½ ha dato risultati piï¿½ precisi. vediamo con le varie recensioni come si evolveranno le cose

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#12 at 27.03.2022 on 12:26hh

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D'ora innanzi non chiamatemi piï¿½ Geko, ma Il Profeta! ï¿½

#11 at 27.03.2022 on 03:04hh

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che delusione ste nvidia

consumano come una centrale e non offrono nulla in piu rispetto alla concorrenza ati

vergogna,dopo tutti sti mesi che si fanno aspettare vedere i test in giro per i siti ï¿½ davvero uno scempio

vedere che la 470 va poco piu di una 5850 e consuma moolto di piu,con la giustificazione IDIOTA da parte nvidia che dice che tanto quei watt in piu sono solo pochi euro in piu in bolletta e che l'utenza non guarda ste cose...ma vergogna

#10 at 27.03.2022 on 00:37hh

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questi sono i valori di riferimento, in questi giorni controllerï¿½ ulteriori test e vedrï¿½ a chi assegnare i punti
5850 100%
470 ï¿½ 120% 125%
5870 130% 135%
480 ï¿½ 150%

5970 ï¿½180% 190%

come vedete ancora i dati sono un po confusi, le prestazioni di queste gpu infatti dipendono molto dai giochi, dalle dx usate e dall'utilizzo di filtri. in linea generale perï¿½ la situazione ï¿½ quella elencata sopra.

last edited by SuperSizeMe at 27.03.2022 00:39h

#9 at 26.03.2022 on 22:16hh

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ATI 5850 100%

ATI 5870 130%

GTX 470 ï¿½140%ï¿½

ATI 5970 145%

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GTX 480 ï¿½170%

Non so ma questa volta sono piï¿½ fiducioso sul pezzo forte nvidia ne vedremo delle belle sicuramente

#8 at 26.03.2022 on 20:26hh

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iin ogni caso x me nvidia > sempre dell'ati.

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purtroppo x le mie passate esperienze la ati mi ha dato sempre e solo problemi e la nvidia mai. quindi nvidia for ever.

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x285 GTX rulez guyz.

#7 at 26.03.2022 on 20:23hh

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ATI 5850 100%

ATI 5870 130%

GTX 470 ï¿½140%ï¿½

GTX 480 ï¿½155%

ATI 5970 160%

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PRO: Con questa nuova architettura nvidia ha puntato molto sulla progammabilitï¿½ e la possibilitï¿½ di utilizzare le sue schede della serie anche per ambiti non prettamente videoludici.
CONTRO: Sulla carta, per le prestazioni che offre, ï¿½ troppo costosa rispetto alle controparti ATI. Consumi eccessivi sia in idle che in full (sempre rispetto ad ATI), conseguentemente temperature di esercizio sia in idle che in full piuttosto elevate e questo si traduce in una rumorositï¿½ maggiore. Infine direi eccessivo ritardo (dovuto anche alla pessima resa produttiva del processo a 40nm da parte di TSMC), sample falsi etc. a discapito quindi della concorrenza e di conseguenza del consumatore.

last edited by Geko at 26.03.2022 20:28h

#6 at 26.03.2022 on 19:27hh

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secondo me:

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5850 100%

5870 130%

gtx 470 150%

gtx 480 170%

5970 190%

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spero che non faranno uscire queste nvidia come le altre ( che consumano e scaldano parecchio)... il prezzo delle schede quasi sicuramente sara superiore alle ati (qualita'/prezzo)..

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last edited by Mastro at 26.03.2022 19:34h

#5 at 26.03.2022 on 18:20hh

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ATI 5850 110%

GTX 470 ï¿½140%

GTX 480 ï¿½150%

ATI 5870 155%

ATI 5970 210%

#4 at 26.03.2022 on 18:20hh

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raga ricordatevi i pareri riguardanti i pro e i contro hanno molta importanza per la valutazione

#3 at 26.03.2022 on 18:19hh

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ATI 5850 100%

ATI 5870 125%

GTX 470ï¿½ 130% / 135%

GTX 480 ï¿½150%

ATI 5970 170%

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avevo letto che la gtx470 doveva battere mediamente la 5870 non di molto,speriamo asd

inoltre dopo tutti questi mesi che le si aspetta ci si aspetta un margine superiore rispetto alla controparte ati

se cosï¿½ non ï¿½ cï¿½ da mettersi le mani nei capelli,per aver fatto aspettare i fanboy di nvidia per nulla

del design poco importa,se il colore ï¿½ grigio o nero,poi dipende dal brand,xfx di solito ha un design piu bello asd

poi per vedere in fondo i pro e i contro bisognerï¿½ guardare molto al prezzo,se ï¿½ vero che la 470 va di piu di una 5870 si spera che ne abbassino il prezzo,anche perche dovrebbe uscire a 350 eurozzoli

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#2 at 26.03.2022 on 18:17hh

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Secondo me...

5850 100%

5870 140%

GTX470 160%

GTX480 170 %

5970 180%

#1 at 26.03.2022 on 18:13hh

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Secondo me...

5850 100%

5870 150%

gtx 470 160%

gtx480 170 %

5970 200%

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